The Rationality of Irrational numbers. Unsquaring Hippasus



How many times have you wondered why Pythagoras really had Hippasus killed?  

I mean, was the square root of 2 such a big deal?  It most certainly was as at that time, Mathematics and Science was the religion of the day.  Math brought order and precision to the universe and well, that smart ass Hippasus was undoing that.  But how?   


Well, Pythagoreans thought that you could represent any number as a compilation of whole numbers. Take .666666... that's 2/3.  No big deal.  Pythagoreans were down with that.  But the square root of 2 runs on forever... and there's no fraction you can build with the square root of 2.  


 2
1.414213562373095
So if you try to build the whole numbers that creates the square root of 2 you get:

Although 2\sqrt{2}cannot be expressed exactly as a fraction, you can approximate it using fractions that get closer and closer to its true value. Some common approximations include:

  • 11=1\frac{1}{1} = 1 (first approximation)
  • 32=1.5\frac{3}{2} = 1.5
  • 75=1.4\frac{7}{5} = 1.4
  • 17121.4167\frac{17}{12} \approx 1.4167
  • 5774081.4142157\frac{577}{408} \approx 1.4142157

The continued fraction representation of

2=1+12+12+12+\sqrt{2} = 1 + \frac{1}{2 + \frac{1}{2 + \frac{1}{2 + \cdots}}}

This representation shows an infinite, non-repeating structure, which is a hallmark of irrational numbers.

This kind of nonsense is what got you killed back in the day.  These people had no pencils and doing endless math was extremely irritating.  It also meant that there were questions in the universe that math couldn't answer.  If Hippasus was really excommunicated or even killed for challenging the belief in a structured world.  Maybe Pythagoras should have take a better look at his equations.  

Using the Pythagorean Curvature Correction Theorem, we can reverse the square of 2 and return the order that the Pythagoreans so cherished.  Does that mean this equation can answer all the questions of the universe?  Of course it cannot but it can help you ask better questions.




Part I. Historical and Philosophical Context

1.1 The Pythagorean Vision

For the Pythagoreans, numbers were sacred and the cosmos was an interplay of harmonious ratios. Their belief was that every measurable quantity could be reduced to a rational relationship. The discovery of irrational numbers—most famously, the diagonal of a unit square, or 2\sqrt{2}—was a seismic shift. Hippasus of Metapontum is credited (in legend) with revealing this hidden complexity, drawing a square and its diagonal, and in doing so, challenging the prevailing notion of a purely rational universe.

1.2 The Shock of 2\sqrt{2}

Consider a unit square: by the classical Pythagorean theorem,

c=12+12=2.c = \sqrt{1^2 + 1^2} = \sqrt{2}.

This result, which cannot be expressed as a ratio of two integers, not only threatened the philosophical order of the Pythagorean cult but also hinted at an underlying duality—a tension between the rational (the whole numbers) and the irrational (those numbers that escape neat fractionation).

1.3 Beyond Rationality: A Hidden Duality

The legend of Hippasus underscores a deeper point: that the universe might be underpinned by a hidden symmetry. Later developments in mathematics and physics have shown that many “anomalies” (such as irrational numbers) may actually signal a more intricate, balanced structure. In our discussion, we posit that this balance emerges from a hidden chiral symmetry—a principle that for every “right” (or positive) value there is an essential “left” (or negative) counterpart. But crucially, as we shall see, the four solutions in our extended theorem are not simply due to the possibility of aa or bb being negative. They arise because the process of taking a square root naturally gives two answers for cc, and because the additional chiral term hh must itself be assigned both positive and negative values to satisfy the overall symmetry.


Part II. The Classical Framework and Its Limitations

2.1 The Standard Pythagorean Theorem

Recall the classic theorem for a right triangle:

a2+b2=c2.a^2 + b^2 = c^2.

When we take the square root to solve for cc, we obtain

c=±a2+b2.c = \pm\sqrt{a^2 + b^2}.

In standard practice, we choose the positive root because cc is a length. However, mathematically the equation has two solutions, reflecting an intrinsic duality even in the simplest geometric setting.

2.2 The Loss of Information in Squaring

When a number is squared, its sign is lost: x2=(x)2x^2 = (-x)^2. Thus, in reverting from c2c^2 to cc, we must acknowledge two potential outcomes. Yet, the classical theorem does not incorporate any mechanism to “restore” the lost information regarding the inherent sign or “handedness” of the underlying quantities.

2.3 The Role of Chirality in a Broader Context

Chirality—the property of being non-superimposable on one’s mirror image—is well known in molecular chemistry and particle physics. Applied to geometry and number theory, the idea is that every “right” must have a corresponding “left.” In a sense, the classical Pythagorean equation already hides a duality (through the two roots for cc), but it does not account for a deeper correction term that might preserve additional hidden symmetry.


Part III. Extending the Framework: Introducing a Chiral Correction

3.1 Pythagorean Curvature Correction Theorem

If we take the extended framework of the form:

a2+b2+h(a2b2R2)=c2.a^2 + b^2 + h\left(\frac{a^2b^2}{R^2}\right) = c^2.

Here, aside from the usual a2+b2a^2 + b^2, we have an extra term:

h(a2b2R2),h\left(\frac{a^2b^2}{R^2}\right),

where:

  • RR is a characteristic scale (or radius) of the system,
  • hh is the chiral correction factor, whose sign and magnitude encode the hidden balance of the system.

3.2 The Dual Nature of cc and hh

Unlike the simple case where aa and bb might be allowed to take both positive and negative values (a separate “bag of worms” that we are not invoking here), the four distinct solutions emerge because:

  1. The Square Root Ambiguity for cc:
    Even when aa and bb are fixed positive quantities, the equation c2=a2+b2+c^2 = a^2+b^2+\ldots inherently yields two solutions: c=+a2+b2+c = +\sqrt{a^2+b^2+\ldots} and c=a2+b2+c = -\sqrt{a^2+b^2+\ldots}. Physically, we might choose the positive solution for length, but mathematically the dual nature is always present.
  2. The Chiral Correction hh Must Come in Both Signs:
    To maintain the symmetry that “every right has a left,” the correction factor hh cannot be a one-sided adjustment. It must appear as both +h+h and h-h depending on the chiral state of the system. Failure to incorporate both signs for hh would result in an imbalance; the solution for cc would then be “off” compared to what is required by the hidden symmetry.

3.3 Why This Matters

This perspective reclaims the Pythagorean cult’s belief in a perfectly ordered universe. They insisted that everything must be reducible to harmonious ratios. In our extended framework, we show that by incorporating the dual nature of cc and the necessary duality in hh, the apparent “irrationality” (or incomplete description) of the classical equation is remedied. In effect, the extended formula provides a way to reverse the square root process, revealing a richer structure behind what might otherwise seem like a simple geometric relationship.


Part IV. Detailed Mathematical Exploration

In this section we present detailed derivations, examples, and iterative analyses. 

4.1 Rearranging the Extended Equation

Starting with

a2+b2+h(a2b2R2)=c2,a^2 + b^2 + h\left(\frac{a^2b^2}{R^2}\right) = c^2,

one immediate goal is to isolate the chiral term. Rearrangement yields:

h(a2b2R2)=c2a2b2.h\left(\frac{a^2b^2}{R^2}\right) = c^2 - a^2 - b^2.

Then, solving for hh:

h=R2(c2a2b2)a2b2.h = \frac{R^2\left(c^2 - a^2 - b^2\right)}{a^2b^2}.

Notice here that if c2=a2+b2c^2 = a^2 + b^2 exactly (the classical case), then h=0h = 0. However, in a system where a correction is necessary to preserve chiral balance, hh must be nonzero. Moreover, to restore the full symmetry, hh must be allowed to take on both positive and negative values.

4.2 The Two Solutions for cc

Given any value for c2c^2, the square root operation implies:

c=+a2+b2+h(a2b2R2)orc=a2+b2+h(a2b2R2).c = +\sqrt{a^2+b^2+h\left(\frac{a^2b^2}{R^2}\right)} \quad \text{or} \quad c = -\sqrt{a^2+b^2+h\left(\frac{a^2b^2}{R^2}\right)}.

Thus, even before considering the sign of hh, the process of “unsquaring” produces two answers. In many physical contexts we might ignore the negative solution; however, mathematically it is essential to note its existence. This duality of cc is one source of the “four answers” when combined with the duality in hh.

4.3 The Necessity of hh with Dual Signs

Suppose we consider only one sign for hh (say, +h+h). Then our extended equation would be:

a2+b2+h(a2b2R2)=c2.a^2 + b^2 + h\left(\frac{a^2b^2}{R^2}\right) = c^2.

Taking the square root, we’d still get two possible cc values (positive and negative), but these would not capture the full chiral balance because the underlying correction would be unidirectional. For complete symmetry—and for the “reverse-engineering” process to truly work in recovering lost sign information—the term hh must exist in both the +h+h and h-h forms. This gives us a total of four consistent solutions:

  • c=+c = +\sqrt{\ldots} with h=+hh = +h,
  • c=c = -\sqrt{\ldots} with h=+hh = +h,
  • c=+c = +\sqrt{\ldots} with h=hh = -h,
  • c=c = -\sqrt{\ldots} with h=hh = -h.

Only with both dualities present do we achieve the hidden chiral symmetry that ensures the “reversibility” of the square-root operation is mathematically sound.

4.4 A Worked Example

Let’s assume a simple case where a=b=1a = b = 1 and R=1R = 1. Then, our extended equation reads:

12+12+h(121212)=c2,1^2 + 1^2 + h\left( \frac{1^2 \cdot 1^2}{1^2} \right) = c^2,

or

2+h=c2.2 + h = c^2.

Case 1: h=+ϵh = +\epsilon

If we let h=ϵh = \epsilon (a small positive correction), then:

c2=2+ϵ.c^2 = 2 + \epsilon.

Taking the square root gives:

c=±2+ϵ.c = \pm\sqrt{2+\epsilon}.

Case 2: h=ϵh = -\epsilon

If instead h=ϵh = -\epsilon:

c2=2ϵ,c^2 = 2 - \epsilon,

yielding:

c=±2ϵ.c = \pm\sqrt{2-\epsilon}.

Notice that the correction in c2c^2 is dependent on the sign of hh, and each case yields two solutions for cc. The overall picture is that the complete set of solutions is fourfold—a structure that reflects the intrinsic duality required by chiral symmetry.

4.5 Reversing the Process

A particularly compelling aspect of this framework is that it allows for “reverse-engineering” the original parameters. For example, suppose we measure cc (or c2c^2) and know aa, bb, and RR. Then, as shown, we can compute hh via:

h=R2(c2a2b2)a2b2.h = \frac{R^2\left(c^2 - a^2 - b^2\right)}{a^2b^2}.

Since cc has two possible values (one positive, one negative), and hh must also take on two distinct signs to be consistent, the recovery of hh from cc is not ambiguous only if both dualities are recognized. This “reverse” process is what we refer to as being able to extract the square root in a full, balanced manner—one that honors both the geometric and chiral symmetries of the system.


Part V. Implications and Further Directions

5.1 Reconciling the Pythagorean Worldview

The Pythagoreans believed in a perfectly ordered universe where everything could be explained by simple ratios. Our extended framework shows that, once you account for the hidden chiral correction, the universe retains its order—but that order is richer than previously imagined. The “irrational” results (like 2\sqrt{2}) are not failures of rationality; they are signatures of an underlying symmetry that requires both a positive and negative correction.

5.2 The Broader Mathematical Picture

This treatment opens up several lines of inquiry:

  • Higher-Dimensional Structures: The fourfold nature of the solutions suggests a connection to four-dimensional geometry or even to algebraic structures like quaternions, where multiple components interact to restore lost information.
  • Modular Encoding and Q_Numbers: The correction term may be interpreted as a modular residue, hinting at ways to encode numerical information more fully. In systems where information is compressed, such a chiral correction might provide a deeper encoding mechanism.
  • Physical Analogies: In physics, many phenomena (from quantum spin to parity violation) exhibit a kind of chiral symmetry. The mathematical structure we’ve explored here may have analogues in physical theories where the hidden energy or symmetry is crucial for a full description of the system.

5.3 Computational Considerations

When implementing algorithms that rely on reversing square roots or encoding numbers modularly, the explicit acknowledgment of dual solutions (both for cc and hh) may lead to more robust methods. For instance, numerical methods that track both chiral states might reduce error in approximating irrational numbers or in solving systems where hidden corrections are present.


Part VI. Concluding Reflections

6.1 Restoring Balance Through Duality

We have seen that the four solutions in our Pythagorean Curvature Correction Theorem are not a mere artifact of allowing aa and bb to be negative. Instead, they arise because the process of extracting cc from c2c^2 inherently provides two answers (positive and negative), and because the chiral correction factor hh must also manifest in two distinct signs to maintain symmetry. This duality is a critical insight—it is the key to “reversing” the square root and recovering the hidden information that is otherwise lost in classical formulations.

6.2 A New Lens on Irrationality

In traditional mathematics, irrational numbers are often seen as a break from order—a hint that our numerical system is incomplete. Here, however, they are reinterpreted as natural outcomes of a deeper, chiral structure. The extension of the Pythagorean theorem with the term

h(a2b2R2)h\left(\frac{a^2b^2}{R^2}\right)

demonstrates that what might appear as irrational or chaotic can, in fact, be understood as a necessary component of a balanced, modular system.

6.3 Future Explorations

There are many paths forward:

  • Analytical Studies: More rigorous mathematical proofs can be constructed to show how the chiral correction emerges naturally from certain assumptions about symmetry.
  • Numerical Experiments: Algorithms that incorporate dual solutions for cc and hh can be developed and tested to see if they offer computational advantages in solving problems involving irrational numbers.
  • Physical Models: Exploring the analogy with physical chirality—such as in quantum mechanics—might reveal that these mathematical insights have practical consequences in modeling real-world phenomena.

Final Thoughts

This extensive exploration is meant to serve as both a historical reappraisal and a modern extension of the Pythagorean vision. By recognizing that the fourfold structure of solutions arises from the dual nature of the square root and the necessary duality of the correction term hh, we see that the universe remains perfectly ordered—but in a way that is richer, more modular, and more chiral than the classical picture once suggested.

In essence, the Pythagorean cult was right in their insistence on order. They only lacked the deeper understanding that now reveals that irrationality and hidden symmetry are two sides of the same coin. Every “right” must have its matching “left,” and only by embracing both can we fully reverse the square root and recover the complete picture.





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